src/rougail/annotator/family.py

@@ -122,6 +122,7 @@ class Annotator(Walk):
         for family in self.get_families():
             if not family.description:
                 family.description = family.name
+                self.objectspace.forced_descriptions.append(family.path)
             if family.type == "dynamic" and isinstance(
                 family.dynamic, VariableCalculation
             ):

src/rougail/annotator/variable.py

@@ -232,6 +232,7 @@ class Annotator(Walk):  # pylint: disable=R0903
         # variable without description: description is the name
         if not variable.description:
             variable.description = variable.name
+            self.objectspace.forced_descriptions.append(variable.path)
         if variable.type is None:
             variable.type = "string"
         self.objectspace.informations.add(variable.path, "type", variable.type)

src/rougail/convert/convert.py

@@ -144,6 +144,7 @@ class ParserVariable:
         self.dynamics_variable = {}
         self.multis = {}
         self.default_multi = {}
+        self.forced_descriptions = []
         self.jinja = {}
         #
         self.convert_options = list(CONVERT_OPTION)

src/rougail/user_datas.py

@@ -283,8 +283,9 @@ class UserDatas:
     def _populate_error_warnings(self):
         # we don't find variable, apply value just to get error or warning messages
         for path, options in self.values.items():
+            if "{{ identifier }}" in path:
+                continue
             value = options["values"]
-
             if options.get('secret_manager'):
                 option = self.config.forcepermissive.option(path)
             else:
@@ -431,13 +432,7 @@ class UserDatas:
         if is_secret_manager and isinstance(value, tuple):
             # it's a function
             value = value[0](*value[1:], option=option, warnings=self.warnings, errors=self.errors)
-        if is_secret_manager and "hidden" in option.property.get():
-            option.permissive.add("hidden")
-            option.permissive.add("frozen")
         option.value.set(value)
-        if is_secret_manager and "hidden" in option.property.get():
-            option.permissive.remove("hidden")
-            option.permissive.remove("frozen")
 
 
 def convert_value(option, value):