diff --git a/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/rougail.po b/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/rougail.po
index 22f8bec36..53084ab35 100644
--- a/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/rougail.po
+++ b/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/rougail.po
@@ -5,8 +5,8 @@
 msgid ""
 msgstr ""
 "Project-Id-Version: \n"
-"POT-Creation-Date: 2025-12-22 19:02+0100\n"
-"PO-Revision-Date: 2025-12-22 19:04+0100\n"
+"POT-Creation-Date: 2025-12-23 21:09+0100\n"
+"PO-Revision-Date: 2025-12-23 21:10+0100\n"
 "Last-Translator: \n"
 "Language-Team: \n"
 "Language: fr\n"
@@ -644,7 +644,7 @@ msgid "internal error, {0} is not a dynamic variable"
 msgstr "erreur interne, \"{0}\" n'est pas une variable dynamique"
 
 #: src/rougail/error.py:61 src/rougail/tiramisu.py:235
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:452 src/rougail/user_data.py:455
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:463 src/rougail/user_data.py:466
 msgid "{0} in {1}"
 msgstr "{0} dans {1}"
 
@@ -889,30 +889,38 @@ msgstr "\"{0}\" est un {1} invalide"
 msgid "the attribute \"{0}\" in {1} causes the error: {2}"
 msgstr "l'attribut \"{0}\" dans {1} provoque l'erreur : {2}"
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:146
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:101
+msgid "{0}"
+msgstr ""
+
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:103
+msgid "{0}, it will be ignored"
+msgstr "{0}, elle sera ignorée"
+
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:154
 msgid ""
 "cannot load variable path \"{0}\", the identifier \"{1}\" is not valid in {2}"
 msgstr ""
 "ne peut charger la variable \"{0}\", l'identifiant \"{1}\" n'est pas valide "
 "dans {2}"
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:230
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:238
 msgid "the variable contains secrets and should not be defined in {0}"
 msgstr ""
 "la variable contient des secrets et ne devrait pas être défini dans {0}"
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:269
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:277
 msgid "loaded from {0}"
 msgstr "chargée depuis {0}"
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:311
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:317
 msgid ""
 "is a family so we cannot set the value \"{0}\", it has been loading from {1}"
 msgstr ""
 "est une famille donc il n'est pas possible de définir la valeur \"{0}\", "
 "elle a été chargée depuis {1}"
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:315
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:321
 msgid ""
 "is a family so we cannot set the value \"{0}\", it will be ignored when "
 "loading from {1}"
@@ -920,16 +928,16 @@ msgstr ""
 "est une famille donc il n'est pas possible de définir la valeur \"{0}\", "
 "elle sera ignorée lors du chargement depuis {1}"
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:326
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:332 src/rougail/user_data.py:337
 msgid "{0}, it has been loaded from {1}"
 msgstr "{0}, elle a été chargée depuis {1}"
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:332
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:343
 msgid "variable or family \"{0}\" does not exist, it has been loading from {1}"
 msgstr ""
 "la variable ou la famille \"{0}\" n'existe pas, elle a été chargée depuis {1}"
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:336
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:347
 msgid ""
 "variable or family \"{0}\" does not exist, it will be ignored when loading "
 "from {1}"
@@ -937,12 +945,12 @@ msgstr ""
 "la variable ou la famille \"{0}\" n'existe pas, elle sera ignorée lors du "
 "chargement depuis {1}"
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:342
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:353
 msgid "\"{0}\" is the name of a dynamic family, it has been loading from {1}"
 msgstr ""
 "\"{0}\" est le nom d'une famille dynamique, elle a été chargée depuis {1}"
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:346
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:357
 msgid ""
 "\"{0}\" is the name of a dynamic family, it will be ignored when loading "
 "from {1}"
@@ -950,16 +958,16 @@ msgstr ""
 "\"{0}\" est le nom d'une famille dynamique, il sera ignoré lors du "
 "chargement depuis {1}"
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:354
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:365
 msgid "{0} loaded from {1}"
 msgstr "{0} chargée depuis {1}"
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:385
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:396
 msgid "variable {0} at index \"{1}\" is {2}, it has been loading from {3}"
 msgstr ""
 "la variable {0} à l'index \"{1}\" est {2}, elle a été chargée depuis {3}"
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:389
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:400
 msgid ""
 "variable {0} at index \"{1}\" is {2}, it will be ignored when loading from "
 "{3}"
@@ -967,29 +975,29 @@ msgstr ""
 "la variable {0} à l'index \"{1}\" est {2}, elle sera ignorée lors du "
 "chargement depuis {3}"
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:402
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:413
 msgid "family {0} is {1}, {2} at index \"{3}\", it has been loading from {4}"
 msgstr ""
 "la famille {0} est {1}, {2} à l'index \"{3}\", elle a été chargée depuis {4}"
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:406
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:417
 msgid ""
 "family {0} is {1}, {2} at index \"{3}\", it will be ignored when loading "
 "from {4}"
 msgstr ""
 "la famille {0} est {1}, {2} à l'index \"{3}\", elle a été chargée depuis {4}"
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:421
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:432
 msgid "variable has propery {0}, it has been loading from {1}"
 msgstr "la variable a la propriété {0}, elle a été chargée depuis {1}"
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:425
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:436
 msgid "variable has property {0}, it will be ignored when loading from {1}"
 msgstr ""
 "la variable a la propriété {0}, elle sera ignorée lors du chargement depuis "
 "{1}"
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:435
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:446
 msgid ""
 "family {0} has property {1}, so cannot access to {2}, it has been loading "
 "from {3}"
@@ -997,7 +1005,7 @@ msgstr ""
 "la famille {0} a la propriété {1}, donc ne peut accéder à {2}, elle a été "
 "chargée depuis {3}"
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:439
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:450
 msgid ""
 "family {0} has property {1}, so cannot access to {2}, it will be ignored "
 "when loading from {3}"
@@ -1005,23 +1013,23 @@ msgstr ""
 "la famille {0} a la propriété {1}, donc ne peut accéder à {2}, sera ignorée "
 "lors du chargement depuis {3}"
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:459
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:470
 msgid "{0}, it has been loading from {1}"
 msgstr "{0}, elle a été chargée depuis {1}"
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:461
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:472
 msgid "{0}, it will be ignored when loading from {1}"
 msgstr "{0}, elle sera ignorée lors du chargement depuis {1}"
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:466
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:477
 msgid "the value \"{0}\" is an invalid {1}, {2}"
 msgstr "la valeur \"{0}\" est un {1} invalide, {2}"
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:472
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:483
 msgid ", it has been loading from {0}"
 msgstr ", elle a été chargée depuis {0}"
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:474
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:485
 msgid ", it will be ignored when loading from {0}"
 msgstr ", elle sera ignorée lors du chargement depuis {0}"
 
diff --git a/locale/rougail.pot b/locale/rougail.pot
index c2d7f4532..2053e9fe4 100644
--- a/locale/rougail.pot
+++ b/locale/rougail.pot
@@ -5,7 +5,7 @@
 msgid ""
 msgstr ""
 "Project-Id-Version: PACKAGE VERSION\n"
-"POT-Creation-Date: 2025-12-22 19:04+0100\n"
+"POT-Creation-Date: 2025-12-23 21:10+0100\n"
 "PO-Revision-Date: YEAR-MO-DA HO:MI+ZONE\n"
 "Last-Translator: FULL NAME <EMAIL@ADDRESS>\n"
 "Language-Team: LANGUAGE <LL@li.org>\n"
@@ -438,7 +438,7 @@ msgid "internal error, {0} is not a dynamic variable"
 msgstr ""
 
 #: src/rougail/error.py:61 src/rougail/tiramisu.py:235
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:452 src/rougail/user_data.py:455
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:463 src/rougail/user_data.py:466
 msgid "{0} in {1}"
 msgstr ""
 
@@ -671,99 +671,103 @@ msgstr ""
 msgid "the attribute \"{0}\" in {1} causes the error: {2}"
 msgstr ""
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:146
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:103
+msgid "{0}, it will be ignored"
+msgstr ""
+
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:154
 msgid "cannot load variable path \"{0}\", the identifier \"{1}\" is not valid in {2}"
 msgstr ""
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:230
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:238
 msgid "the variable contains secrets and should not be defined in {0}"
 msgstr ""
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:269
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:277
 msgid "loaded from {0}"
 msgstr ""
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:311
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:317
 msgid "is a family so we cannot set the value \"{0}\", it has been loading from {1}"
 msgstr ""
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:315
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:321
 msgid "is a family so we cannot set the value \"{0}\", it will be ignored when loading from {1}"
 msgstr ""
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:326
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:332 src/rougail/user_data.py:337
 msgid "{0}, it has been loaded from {1}"
 msgstr ""
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:332
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:343
 msgid "variable or family \"{0}\" does not exist, it has been loading from {1}"
 msgstr ""
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:336
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:347
 msgid "variable or family \"{0}\" does not exist, it will be ignored when loading from {1}"
 msgstr ""
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:342
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:353
 msgid "\"{0}\" is the name of a dynamic family, it has been loading from {1}"
 msgstr ""
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:346
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:357
 msgid "\"{0}\" is the name of a dynamic family, it will be ignored when loading from {1}"
 msgstr ""
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:354
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:365
 msgid "{0} loaded from {1}"
 msgstr ""
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:385
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:396
 msgid "variable {0} at index \"{1}\" is {2}, it has been loading from {3}"
 msgstr ""
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:389
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:400
 msgid "variable {0} at index \"{1}\" is {2}, it will be ignored when loading from {3}"
 msgstr ""
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:402
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:413
 msgid "family {0} is {1}, {2} at index \"{3}\", it has been loading from {4}"
 msgstr ""
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:406
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:417
 msgid "family {0} is {1}, {2} at index \"{3}\", it will be ignored when loading from {4}"
 msgstr ""
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:421
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:432
 msgid "variable has propery {0}, it has been loading from {1}"
 msgstr ""
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:425
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:436
 msgid "variable has property {0}, it will be ignored when loading from {1}"
 msgstr ""
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:435
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:446
 msgid "family {0} has property {1}, so cannot access to {2}, it has been loading from {3}"
 msgstr ""
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:439
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:450
 msgid "family {0} has property {1}, so cannot access to {2}, it will be ignored when loading from {3}"
 msgstr ""
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:459
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:470
 msgid "{0}, it has been loading from {1}"
 msgstr ""
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:461
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:472
 msgid "{0}, it will be ignored when loading from {1}"
 msgstr ""
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:466
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:477
 msgid "the value \"{0}\" is an invalid {1}, {2}"
 msgstr ""
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:472
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:483
 msgid ", it has been loading from {0}"
 msgstr ""
 
-#: src/rougail/user_data.py:474
+#: src/rougail/user_data.py:485
 msgid ", it will be ignored when loading from {0}"
 msgstr ""
 
diff --git a/src/rougail/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/rougail.mo b/src/rougail/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/rougail.mo
index 002ca3047..d2fa5671e 100644
Binary files a/src/rougail/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/rougail.mo and b/src/rougail/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/rougail.mo differ
diff --git a/src/rougail/user_data.py b/src/rougail/user_data.py
index 8f64e11bc..561d38355 100644
--- a/src/rougail/user_data.py
+++ b/src/rougail/user_data.py
@@ -89,11 +89,19 @@ class UserData:
             self.warnings.extend(datas.get("warnings", []))
 
     def _get_variable(self, config):
-        for subconfig in config:
-            if subconfig.isoptiondescription():
-                yield from self._get_variable(subconfig)
+        try:
+            for subconfig in config:
+                if subconfig.isoptiondescription():
+                    yield from self._get_variable(subconfig)
+                else:
+                    yield subconfig
+        except (ConfigError, ValueError) as err:
+            err.prefix = ""
+            if self.invalid_user_data_error:
+                msg = str(err)
             else:
-                yield subconfig
+                msg = _('{0}, it will be ignored').format(err)
+            self.invalids.append({msg: err.subconfig})
 
     def _auto_configure_dynamics(self):
         cache = {}
@@ -297,8 +305,6 @@ class UserData:
     def _populate_error_warnings(self):
         # we don't find variable, apply value just to get error or warning messages
         for path, options in self.values.items():
-#            if "{{ identifier }}" in path:
-#                continue
             value = options["values"]
             if options.get("secret_manager"):
                 option = self.config.forcepermissive.option(path)
@@ -321,7 +327,12 @@ class UserData:
                                 ): option._subconfig}
                         )
                     continue
-            except (ConfigError, PropertiesOptionError) as err:
+            except ConfigError as err:
+                self.invalids.append({
+                    _("{0}, it has been loaded from {1}").format(err, options["source"]): option._subconfig}
+                )
+                continue
+            except PropertiesOptionError as err:
                 self.unknowns.append({
                     _("{0}, it has been loaded from {1}").format(err, options["source"]): option._subconfig}
                 )